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A strange personal experience
by millions now living are dead ini don't post here much but i enjoy lurking.
i thought i'd share an experience i had recently.
this may be long.
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Doofdaddy - Thanks for noticing my avatar is K. He was a cool dude, aye?
Rebel8 - I think you are right, she was a symbol to me of a different life than the crappy one I had, with love and infatuation and all that good stuff mixed in. I was shocked that my heart held onto this for so long. I'm convinced that as humans, we are completely ignorant of our complete self and operate on a very surface level. I think that unfinished business must always be finished. I am also quite suprised that there can be some form of communication between each other in the dream world.
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A strange personal experience
by millions now living are dead ini don't post here much but i enjoy lurking.
i thought i'd share an experience i had recently.
this may be long.
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Cameo-d: I thought of giving her the link to this site but my intuition says no, not now. I have a subtle but stable confidence it will work out in the end.
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A strange personal experience
by millions now living are dead ini don't post here much but i enjoy lurking.
i thought i'd share an experience i had recently.
this may be long.
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I don't post here much but I enjoy lurking. I thought I'd share an experience I had recently. This may be long. Quick background: 4th gen Witness. Huge family. First to leave. Misssionaries, Bethelites, yadda yadda. My wife and I left the borg 6 years ago, doing the fade, though most everybody shuns us. Anyway, I've been doing alot of exploration since then in the realms of spirituality. So I stumbled upon a spritual practice that actually works and have had many spiritual or mystical experiences since. This one was unique.
So when I'm 14 I meet this girl at school. It's the typical first love thing but we were friends. There is something different about this girl though. I was fascinated by her. She seemed very focused and serious, though she seemed to carry a pain with her, like it sat right behind her eyes. Anyway, I loved that pain for some reason and I loved her. My parents were absolutely psycho about girlfriends and of course she was worldly so I never told her I loved her. I was terrified of the consequences. She talked about college and talked about deep things like poetry and philosophy. I was only 14 at this point but it struck a nerve with me. I realize now that it was at this moment that I wanted to be something else than what was laid out for me by my parents. I wanted something more. She sort of represented freedom to me. Anyway, I was in love with her until I was 17. I watched her from a distance and actually I became quite cruel to her so that I didn't have to be around her. It hurt to much. She never knew I dug her. So eventually, I graduated High School and proceeded to pioneer for 6 years. I forgot about her for years. I met a beautiful witness girl at 17 and ended up marrying her later on. She is an incredible person who left the borg with me. However, there was always this wound in my heart of never having the courage to tell this girl what I thought of her. I believe I never was able to be truly intimate to my wife because of this.
So about 3 years ago I get this really powerful dream in which an angel takes me to some place that appears to be heaven or something similar. The angel takes me to this girl and commands me in a powerful voice, "Tell her you love her!" I am afraid but I am awestruck by this angel and so I tell this girl how I felt about her. She is radiant and beautiful. Then together we go to my parents and what appears to be my ancestors standing behind them. The angel says, "Tell them that you love this girl." Now I'm really terrified but I do it. Then together, this girl and I fly around the Universe like Superman and Lois Lane. Pure bliss.... Then I wake up. I stare at the wall for an hour and try to figure out what happened. This dream was so powerful, there are no words to describe it. This dream repeats itself every few months but not as powerful. So I go on with my life.
Meanwhile, my marriage is starting to fall apart. My wife is the sweetest person on the planet. We are good friends and enjoy each other most of the time but for some reason we cannot live together anymore. My wife and I finally separate. We feel that we sort of enmeshed when we left the borg and we were using each other as crutches. We figure we should try to find strength seperately and then see if we want to get back together later. We remain close friends. As soon as she moves out the dreams intensify. Every god-forsaken night they come. It starts to drive me crazy. So I decide to contact the girl. Yikes! 20 years later!!
So I find her on the internet and I put out a feeler e-mail. Just saying hi. It ends up she has a family and lives in a foriegn country. So we have some small talk. I am flabbergasted that I am going to do this, but I write her an e-mail telling her that I was in love with her in High School and that I had crazy JW parents and my home life sucked and I was a coward for not telling her how I felt about her. I explained all about the JW's and all about the mind control and how they are a cult. I send the e-mail. Then I drive to my parents house and tell them that I loved someone in High School and that I was a coward for letting them and the JW's get in the way of love, even if it was 14 year old love. It ends with my mother yelling frantically and calling me Satan. I realized at a soul level at that moment how insane this religion is, and how insane my parents are, and that I will not give another ounce of my energy toward it. I feel tremendous relief, like I just dropped some weight off me. I had fulfilled the dream.
So a couple days pass and I get an e-mail back from this girl. She drops a bomb on me.......SHE HAS BEEN STUDYING FOR 3 YEARS WITH THE JW's in this foriegn country (around the same time of my first dream!). I am floored. I literally fell on the floor. She said that he experieced a major tragedy in her life and she asked for God to come into her life and the Witnesses knocked on her door a half hour later. Here, this girl represented freedom and liberation to me from the life that was planned for me. I think my heart felt that she was my ticket out of this suffocating box. Now, years later, she is going into the box that she inspired me to leave and what I have struggled for so long to escape from. Leaving has consumed my whole adult life. The girl (woman) also is floored. She didn't know anything negative about the Witnesses and is in the honeymoon period. They have been real good to her and her family. We e-mail back and forth to each other for about 2 weeks on a daily basis. I sort of still feel love for her and feel like an old wound is healing. At the same time I'm aware of letting her go. It's really hard on me, even though it's been this long. Then she e-mails me and tells me she had a dream about me. She tells me the details. The bizarre thing is that I had the same dream on the same night with the same details. It was like we both consciously communicated in the dream world. I tell her this and I think it creeps her out.
Then, about 2 nights later. I lay down on the couch and I fell asleep. I had what is known as a lucid dream. I didn't know I was dreaming. I was laying on the couch in my dream so I didn't even realize that I had fell asleep. Anyway, this girl walks into my apartment. I'm like, "What are you doing here? This is impossible!!" She walks up to me and crouches down by the couch. She puts her forehead against my forehead. I say to her, "I missed you all these years." and she says to me, "I know" Then she dissappears. I'm still not sure what is going on so I get up and get on the computer. I cannot see the characters on the screen. I realize that I must be in a dream so I say, "wake up dude" and I am back on the couch. I don't tell her about this dream.
Anyway, after that, I don't feel the need to contact her anymore and I feel a sense of completion. I don't know what will happen on her end but strangely, I'm not compelled to talk her out of becoming a JW. I still feel a connection to her, though, on a soul level. I think it was a lesson for me not to look for power or purpose outside myself and that everyone is on their own life journey. I also feel some forgiveness to my ancestors for getting the family into this mess. Anyway, just thought I'd share this story.
Mil
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Terence Howard reading NWT to Johnny Cash song. Say it's not true!
by millions now living are dead inwhenever i need spiritual support and guidance, i turn to the 4 gospels of johnny, kris, willie, and waylon.
now i see this video.
talk about a little leaven fermenting the whole lump.
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I guess I did post it.
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Terence Howard reading NWT to Johnny Cash song. Say it's not true!
by millions now living are dead inwhenever i need spiritual support and guidance, i turn to the 4 gospels of johnny, kris, willie, and waylon.
now i see this video.
talk about a little leaven fermenting the whole lump.
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Whenever I need spiritual support and guidance, I turn to the 4 gospels of Johnny, Kris, Willie, and Waylon. Now I see this video. Talk about a little leaven fermenting the whole lump. It almost ruined the song for me. I must be strong. Check out :39 seconds into this video. I think its Terrence Howard and I think it's a NWT. What do you think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxh-FfElY0M
(Sorry, I don't know how to put the video up)
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Twilight Zone "On Thursday We Leave For Home" Parallels
by neverendingjourney inim a fan of the original twilight zone television series.
i recently saw an episode entitled on thursday we leave for home, and it dawned on me that it had some interesting parallels regarding why a lot of witnesses never leave the religion even when it starts to become clear that its not the truth.
of course, these shows presented short moral lessons and different people can find different morals in them, but i digress.
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During my fade, I saw this episode and it had a major impact on me. I too saw the parallels. Such wisdom packed in a little show. Also, Truman Show was a biggie for me. I was banging on the sky colored wall.
Mil
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Black Magic and Jehovah
by sinis inok, i bought a book on black magic, and it is very intense to say the least.
what i have found interesting, and perhaps some could shed some light, is on the subject of evocation and the use of jehovah and his angels.
now why does this form of black magic evoke known angels, not demons, and why does it use jehovah to bind them?
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Sinis,
IMO, this is where it gets hairy. I am not sure I can recommend any books because most masters of White Magic or healing tend to need to work directly with a student so as to monitor and keep safe the student. The real ones tend not to write books about the inner powerful practices, though they may write about general ones. You can find Shamans in South America and some Native Americans who are working with the Light but it's tough because they can appear good but are really manipulating you. You have to trust your gut. As for me, I discovered a teacher of Qigong in my hometown, which is a Chinese practice that utilizes the body and it's energy centers. I follow this path currently because of one reason: It works for me. In my experience with this stuff it appears to be the real deal. Most real teachers don't preach from the roof tops. They don't want students for power reasons, they already have all the power they need directly from the source. They are like Jedi's living in the population. Pretty cool!
In my opinion, as a general rule, practicing White Magic or a pure spiritual practice requires that you "clean up" first. This means that the practice is done to actually take away things from you at first, not add. For example, you may have a wound from childhood that must be healed or you may be being psychically fed on. Once this stuff is cleared away, then the reason for wanting stuff like money, sex, etc will be clearer. You will be able to access these things but it will be done without violating the boundaries of others.
Black Magic disregards the "cleaning up" and just gets you what you desire. But you are really adding more crap on you.
That being said, there are simple prayers, incantations, and visualizations that I have seen in book stores from people with good intent, IMO. I think these do help in getting in touch with helpfull spirits or your creative power and there is no danger. Here's a few I like.
1) Creative Visualization - Shakti Gawain
2) The Way of the Shaman - Michael Harner
3) Awaken Healing Light of the Dao - Mantak Chia
The best way to find your way is to trust yourself. Ask yourself why you want what you are seeking. It's not wrong to have things and enjoy your life. Nothing wrong with desire. Even getting tangled in bad sh*t like the JW's can make a soul stronger once it gets out.
Just one mans opinion. Hope this helps.
Mil
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Black Magic and Jehovah
by sinis inok, i bought a book on black magic, and it is very intense to say the least.
what i have found interesting, and perhaps some could shed some light, is on the subject of evocation and the use of jehovah and his angels.
now why does this form of black magic evoke known angels, not demons, and why does it use jehovah to bind them?
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Sinis,
Here's my take on this. Black Magic is a method in which you steal energy from an any entity with personal boundaries. You Tresspass. This could be from a spirit, a stranger, a parent, and a child, etc. Most people do not know they are being stolen from but they feel like crap and take a pill for it. White Magic is where you get energy from willing entities like angels who give freely until they feel like they cannot give anymore or else they are in danger. A White Magician can heal a person by amping up the energy (chi) in a sick person which allows the body to heal, although it is the healee's body or spirit that really heals itself. Ultimately, this energy comes from the Source or the Noumenon which is not observable but is reflected in entities. White Magic is based on reality, self knowledge, and has no repercussions down the line. It does not try to control. Black Magic is a slippery slope and is done in levels of severity, based on fear. (Not that fear is not helpful when balanced properly in the mind/spirit/body/whatever.)
All organized religion that trys to control people is a form of Black Magic. It is like a virus. The common cold and the Ebola virus vary in degrees. The cold infects alot of people but does not kill people generally. Ebola infects only a small group because it tends to kill the host and thus itself. I would say that something like the Catholic Church is a cold and David Koresh is Ebola. Jehovah's Witness are somewhere in between.
I have posted previosly on my experience with Amazonian Shamans in Peru.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/122883/1.ashx
I hope that link worked. I don't post here much.
As previously posted, while in the Amazon, the Shaman told me a demi-god showed up during one ceremony and tryed sucking on my soul, or Tresspassing on me in order to feed on me. He said this demi-god was flanked by 3 demons on both sides of him. When I got home, I read that the Gnostics considered Jehovah to be the evil Ialdobolath and that he had created 6 sons who work with him. I figured this must be him.
Besides this stuff being extremely weird, and being sort of forced into it out of desperation, I am still trying to figure this stuff out myself.
Now to your question: I think that maybe you can summon these Archangels, who are pathways to the Source and reflect certain forms of energy of that Source. They do not give you love energy willingly so... You you bind them with the Ultimate Thief, Jehovah or Ialdobolath, who has no direct channel to the source. He's an addict. He's a robber. He steals the energy from the Archangels and you get some of it. It's like forcing someone to love you by using fear. It doesn't work, but you may get some sex out of it or false admiration, etc. The bad news is that now you are in THE MOB. And you become an addict and a slave the the Demi-Godfather. Now would be the time for the "Witness Protection Program" joke.
Anywho, just my opinion.
"A thief comes only to rob, kill, and destroy. I came so that everyone would have life, and have it in its fullest." - Jesus
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Is Jehovah a real dude? (Sort of long)
by millions now living are dead ini don't post here much but this board has helped me through the process of extracting myself from this religion.
i thought i should share an experience that i had.. quick background: 4th of 5 generations of jw's leading back to beginning of the century.
first to leave the religion of all of the relatives and family.
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Perry,
I know where you are coming from. I do have to make something clear, however. I have never taken drugs except once I tried weed and didn't enjoy it so I never did it again. I don't drink but I am a little addicted to sugar.(aren't I special) I do not consider Ayahuasca a drug although it technically is. To me a drug allows you to escape from life or run away from your problems for a while. Ayahuasca does the complete opposite. The indigenous Shamans of South America actually find offense in the term drug. They consider it to be medicine. I don't mean to preach on this topic but a majority of the United States population is on some sort of medication. I was on all sorts of anti-depressents and that is considered fine by all. I take a few doses of this with an experienced Shaman and my life improves afterward. The exact opposite happens with recreational drugs and medicinal drugs like Prozac tend to cover up the existing problem. (Though I'm not against taking Prozac. It helped me when I needed it.) The only good feelings you get on Ayahuasca is when something dark is purged from the psyche, then you get a reward.
In regards to Jesus. I have experienced Jesus since I came home. It is a feeling in the heart. Like I said before, I'm still figuring out if these entities are real or part of my psyche. I found Jesus to be very powerful, compassionate and sort of brings an instant understanding of certain things. (Christ Conscienceness). I think you are fortunate to have found that. It really is amazing.
Mil